求Y280M-12-37KW电机的电磁参数
各位好，我手中有个订单，客户需要一个Y280M-12-37KW380V/50HZ电机。我想用Y2-280-8的定子加长到350mm,定转子槽为72/58,节距变为1-6,线径用2-1.18;1-1.25的漆包线26匝,绕组是双层叠式,六路三角.因为没有测功设备,能否帮我推导下该电机的性能是否满足37KW,温升有多高?谢谢,我在线等候各位的指点。 粗略根据发热不变的话，(D^2)L=K*P/n.P增加百分之多少，L就增加多少。但铁芯变长的话，注意发热的控制（倘若原来的温升余量不是很大的话） 回复 2# xiao2hei你能具体讲清楚点吗?我主要是对我自己设计的电磁参数没有把握,害怕电磁参数不行. 我认为用Y2-280-8的定子加长到350mm,定转子槽为72/58,节距变为1-6,线径用3-1.06的漆包线32匝,绕组是双层叠式,四路三角.电机的性能应该满足37KW。 回复 4# zy2000
我是用280-8的铁心加长到350做12极37KW，能把计算单上传吗？ 回复 5# tech4
不好意思，我的计算单无法保存，只能看到啊，你就用这些参数自己去算一下吧 回复 5# tech4
我也是刚才看到你的贴子帮你调的一个方案，权当抛砖之用。 回复 6# zy2000
可是按照你的参数算出来的效率很低的只有78%左右。空载电流也对不起来的 回复 1# tech4
楼主能否把计算单上传啊！ 回复 9# hxmotor
我就是没有办法上传计算单，惭愧我刚刚在试用运用软件计算。希望队长您帮忙计算一下，呵呵......谢谢 回复 8# tech4
效率有90，只是功率因素较低，空载电流起不来是什么意思？42A左右对吧？ 回复 11# zy2000
是37KW12极的电机吗 ？ 该低电机吧 50.0000380.0000 .9200 2.0000 2.0000 .3500 .0800
.0217 .0434 .0000 .0000 2.5000 2.0000 60.0000
.0000 .0000 .0000 .0000 .0000
BB:
37.0000 12.0000 .9170 .8000 6.0000 1.8000 2.0000
72.0000 58.0000445.0000325.0000100.0000 .6000 5.0000
1.0000 3.8000 1.0000 35.0000 1.5000 1.0000
-30.0000 .0100 .0089 2.0000 1100.0000 .0000
CC:
7.2000 9.2000 25.6000 4.0000 4.0000 6.9000 2.6000
14.7000 39.4000 4.0000350.0000 5.0000 .0000 3.0000
30.0000 1.0000 .0000 .0000 3.0000 1.2500 .0000
.0000 -1.0000 -1.0000 .0000 .0000 1.0000
********************************************************************** *****
* Q1=72. D1 =445.0D2=323.8 STATOR ROTOR *
* Q2= 58.Di1=325.0 Di2=100.0 U1: 380. Ty=78.19 *
* L = 350.0 Leff= 351.2 A : 3. Fd1=24.56 *
* L1= 322.0 L2= 322.0 zf: 240.0 B25=15948.1 *
* b01= 3.80b02= 1.50 z : 30. P10=1.99 *
* bs1=7.2br1= 4.00 Czn: 2. B50=16791.7 *
* Rs = 4.60br2= 4.00 N1*d1: 3.* 1.2500 p15=4.47 *
* hs1= 1.19br3= 6.90 N2*d2: 0.*.0000 *
* hs2=24.41br4= 2.60 S : 3.68 *
* hs0= 1.0 hr0= 1.0 Y : 5.00(____________________________)*
* bt1= 7.2 hr1= 1.4 Lz: 492.34 d:25.00 *
* bt2=10.4 hr2=13.3 Gcu: 36.587 Gal: 17.882 Gfe= 497.360(Kg)*
* bt3= 8.9 hr3=39.4 R1: .2322 R2: .1741 *
* t1 =14.18t2 =17.54 J : 4.44 1.83 / .62 *
* Zs1=35.00Zs2=-30.0 Sk: 1.00 Si: .35 *
* hc1=30.33hc2= 56.80 Se: 198.04 wi:.08 *
* g= .60 Zc= 4. Sf: .8039 Hw:2.0 *
* bt11= 7.17 bt12= 7.30 btrmu=14755.89 btrml=14703.63 *
* Hc1min= 28.80 Hc2min= 56.80 Bscmax= 7341.3 Brcmax= 3722.3 *
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* mm*mm B L AT/cm AT i2=1.186 445.9 *
*st:13940.0 14725. 27.1 9.16 24.86pcu1= .0453 1675.3 *
*sc: 9767.3 6970. 54.3 .90 3.41pcu2= .0209 774.2 *
*rt:16159.9 12702. 14.7 2.68 40.45 pfe= .0183 678.9 *
* 13926.9 14738. 39.4 9.26 Ps= .0100 370.0 *
*rc:18289.6 3722. 20.5 .74 1.06 pfw= .0089 329.3 *
*g0:29881.8 6869. .76 419.08 pg= .1034 3827.6 *
*Ikw= 32.46 a c1=.700 c2=.700 AT=488.85 p1=1.1034 *
*Im = 19.39 a Km=1.0509 i1=1.5111 49.044 *
*Im0= 23.67 a pm0= 1398.43 *
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* B0 Cm**3 w/cm**3 p Si Wi Hw *
* st:15700.5 4538.9 .039 177.71 .35 .08 2.0*
* sc: 7432.1 12724.0 .009 117.29 *
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* Eff Pf Tm Tst Ist AJ Sn *
* .9063 .7302 1.52 1.17 2.86 1535.8 .0199 *
*JB: .9170 .8000 2.00 1.80 6.00 Fx=4793.71 *
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*型号 :Y280M-12 频率 : 50.极数:12. 绝缘等级 :( 允许温升80k ) *
* *
*功率 : 37.00 (kw) 绕组接法: 3-- 矽钢片牌号 :DW470 *
* *
*计算 :_____________日期 :2011-10-19 校核 :_____________日期 :___________*
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KKw : 1.0000 .9000 .7500 .6000 .5000 .4000 .2000
Kw:37.000033.300027.750022.200018.500014.8000 7.4000
P1:40.827636.621230.458124.424920.461516.5553 8.8566
Eff : .9063 .9093 .9111 .9089 .9041 .8940 .8355
Pf: .7302 .7210 .6944 .6479 .6018 .5348 .3357
Tm: 1.5156 1.6914 2.0449 2.5753 3.1033 3.8949 7.8432
I1:49.044444.553038.474533.066629.826027.151923.1409
Sn: .0199 .0174 .0139 .0108 .0088 .0071 .0039
Pfw : .3293 .3293 .3293 .3293 .3293 .3293 .3293
Pfe : .6789 .6685 .6639 .6594 .6548 .6522 .6487
Pcu : 1.6753 1.3825 1.0310 .7615 .6196 .5135 .3730
Pal : .7742 .6080 .4064 .2526 .1728 .1123 .0317
Pcgm: 3.8276 3.3212 2.7081 2.2249 1.9615 1.7553 1.4566 回复 12# tech4
看看,能合适不 回复 15# chmq68
谢谢,问题已经解决. AA:
50.0000380.0000 .9200 2.0000 2.0000 .3500 .0800
.0217 .0434 .0000 .0000 2.5000 2.0000 60.0000
.0000 .0000 .0000 .0000 .0000
BB:
37.0000 12.0000 .9100 .8000 6.7000 1.8000 2.0000
72.0000 58.0000445.0000325.0000100.0000 .6000 5.0000
1.2400 4.0000 1.0000 35.0000 1.5000 1.0000
-30.0000 .0055 .0044 2.0000 1100.0000 25.0000
CC:
6.3000 8.3000 23.7000 3.9000 3.9000 5.7000 2.9000
15.5000 26.0000 4.0000350.0000 5.0000 .0000 3.0000
25.0000 1.0000 .0000 .0000 2.0000 1.1800 1.0000
1.3000 -1.0000 -1.0000 .0000 .0000 1.0000
********************************************************************** *****
* Q1=72. D1 =445.0D2=323.8 STATOR ROTOR *
* Q2= 58.Di1=325.0 Di2=100.0 U1: 380. Ty=77.59 *
* L = 350.0 Leff= 351.2 A : 3. Fd1=21.00 *
* L1= 322.0 L2= 322.0 zf: 200.0 B25=15948.1 *
* b01= 4.00b02= 1.50 z : 25. P10=1.99 *
* bs1=6.3br1= 3.90 Czn: 2. B50=16791.7 *
* Rs = 4.15br2= 3.90 N1*d1: 2.* 1.1800 p15=4.47 *
* hs1=.81br3= 5.70 N2*d2: 1.* 1.3000 *
* hs2=22.89br4= 2.90 S : 3.51 *
* hs0= 1.0 hr0= 1.0 Y : 5.00(____________________________)*
* bt1= 8.0 hr1= 1.4 Lz: 488.23 d:25.00 *
* bt2=11.2 hr2=14.1 Gcu: 28.863 Gal: 14.203 Gfe= 497.360(Kg)*
* bt3=10.0 hr3=26.0 R1: .2010 R2: .1715 *
* t1 =14.18t2 =17.54 J : 5.02 2.07 / .49 *
* Zs1=35.00Zs2=-30.0 Sk: 1.24 Si: .35 *
* hc1=32.53hc2= 69.40 Se: 159.20 wi:.08 *
* g= .60 Zc= 4. Sf: .7977 Hw:2.0 *
* bt11= 8.04 bt12= 8.04 btrmu=15747.22 btrml=15773.27 *
* Hc1min= 31.15 Hc2min= 69.40 Bscmax= 8335.7 Brcmax= 3741.5 *
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* mm*mm B L AT/cm AT i2=1.128 353.3 *
*st:15527.4 15865. 25.1 23.70 59.44pcu1= .0457 1689.9 *
*sc:10475.7 7981. 54.0 1.03 3.90pcu2= .0186 689.6 *
*rt:17370.2 14182. 15.5 6.06 66.59 pfe= .0219 812.1 *
* 15625.9 15765. 26.0 22.00 Ps= .0055 203.5 *
*rc:22346.8 3741. 22.2 .73 1.14 pfw= .0044 162.8 *
*g0:29881.8 8244. .78 512.10 pg= .0962 3557.9 *
*Ikw= 32.46 a c1=.700 c2=.700 AT=643.18 p1=1.0962 *
*Im = 30.61 a Km=1.0539 i1=1.6312 52.943 *
*Im0= 35.83 a pm0= 1748.73 *
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* B0 Cm**3 w/cm**3 p Si Wi Hw *
* st:16454.9 4673.8 .044 204.38 .35 .08 2.0*
* sc: 8278.3 13574.5 .011 150.55 *
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* Eff Pf Tm Tst Ist AJ Sn *
* .9123 .6720 2.27 1.90 4.02 1562.2 .0179 *
*JB: .9100 .8000 2.00 1.80 6.70 Fx=4517.83 *
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*型号 :Y2-280M-12 频率 : 50.极数:12. 绝缘等级 :( 允许温升80k ) *
* *
*功率 : 37.00 (kw) 绕组接法: 3-- 矽钢片牌号 :DW470 *
* *
*计算 :_____________日期 :2011-10-20 校核 :_____________日期 :___________*
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KKw : 1.0000 .9000 .7500 .6000 .5000 .4000 .2000
Kw:37.000033.300027.750022.200018.500014.8000 7.4000
P1:40.557936.480930.446124.518520.614216.7464 9.1090
Eff : .9123 .9128 .9114 .9054 .8974 .8838 .8124
Pf: .6720 .6469 .5983 .5298 .4725 .4044 .2377
Tm: 2.2688 2.5299 3.0497 3.8319 4.6122 5.784611.6433
I1:52.942649.470444.640340.596038.271736.327333.6119
Sn: .0179 .0159 .0131 .0105 .0088 .0072 .0041
Pfw : .1628 .1628 .1628 .1628 .1628 .1628 .1628
Pfe : .8121 .8072 .8013 .7975 .7961 .7946 .7915
Pcu : 1.6899 1.4755 1.2014 .9936 .8831 .7956 .6811
Pal : .6896 .5522 .3780 .2426 .1704 .1119 .0329
Pcgm: 3.5579 3.1809 2.6961 2.3185 2.1142 1.9464 1.7090 上科所的软件算一下，网上很多，很多人都在用 回复 18# wuyufeng
我正在试用从西莫论坛下载的上科所的软件，版主有这个软件的使用说明吗？ 回复 19# tech4
现在家里没有，那个软件的输入输出说明也可以自己下
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