xidian203 发表于 2010-2-22 23:10

版主,给一个三相异步发电机的例子,谢谢了。

wayne 发表于 2010-2-27 18:11

版主,给一个三相异步发电机的例子,谢谢了。
xidian203 发表于 2010-2-22 23:10 http://bbs.simol.cn/images/common/back.gif


    RM5不能做3相异步发电机{:aa16

zhangdagang 发表于 2010-3-10 20:38

好好看看了学习一下吧

edm3000 发表于 2010-3-15 16:20

LZ真强啊,受教了。

zyc09721 发表于 2010-3-15 17:56

用楼主给的参数检验了一遍,为什么我算出来的参数同楼主的有些不一样呢,我用的硅钢片是DW465-50

ningjing 发表于 2010-3-24 15:19

真的很不错。

taner2066 发表于 2010-4-1 09:37

非常好的教材

yzhangx 发表于 2010-4-2 20:06

使用时间不长,用在计算电阻启动电机,额定还是比较准,比浙江大学的EMCAD还要好,启动,堵转不准.
我用过好多的程序,正版,感到这个程序还可以的.应该打8分.

sweer616 发表于 2010-4-2 21:25

我要好好学习

flytogod2 发表于 2010-5-19 14:37

这个程序本身算出来的 好像和实际有很多差距!这需要具体根据实际情况调整啦!我们单相和三相都用的是上科所的。

linzhi0915 发表于 2010-5-29 14:55

总结经验,宝贵财富,感谢西莫,感谢楼主,感谢大家

jzg521 发表于 2010-5-31 19:35

希望编辑部的成员共创西莫电子期刊的辉煌!

jzg521 发表于 2010-5-31 19:36

希望编辑部的成员共创西莫电子期刊的辉煌!

xiaomiao1234567 发表于 2010-6-5 20:06

不管用什么软件,都只是一个工具而已,完全靠软件就不需要那么多做开发的设计人员了,主要是在工作中多积累经验和数据。

xiaomiao1234567 发表于 2010-6-5 20:19

回复 7# saleing
结果不是重要的,对于初学者主要是过程,如何分析电机出现的异常的曲线如何分析判断

baijian 发表于 2010-6-22 23:08

反复看帖 要学会为止 感谢大家的分享

大长经 发表于 2010-6-23 08:17

回复 12# saleing
你是在人家的基础上计算的,结果自然是更接近,如国楼主贴一个假的实际结果,我想你也估计要向假结果靠近了{:1_431:}

saleing 发表于 2010-6-23 16:28

回复 37# 大长经
那你搞个假的来看看

大长经 发表于 2010-6-23 18:03

回复 38# saleing

我这里刚刚有一个电机,后天排到测功机上测试!大后天出结果。你帮我算算,参数如下:
参数、槽形可能不是很合理,原因是这个电机是手工嵌线,现在人工难招,我就把槽形凑近到自动下线机上,因此就有点牵强!不过没关系,只要温升通过,我就能出货!{:aa13


Single-Phase Induction Motor Design

                      File: Setup1.res

   GENERAL DATA

Rated Output Power (kW):        0.2
Rated Voltage (V):        230
Number of Poles:        2
Frequency (Hz):        50
Rated Speed (rpm):        2600
Frictional Loss (W):        35
Windage Loss (W):        15
Type of Load:        Constant Power
Iron Core Length (mm):        43
Stacking Factor of Iron Core:        0.95
Type of Steel:        D23_50
Operating Temperature (C):        75
Rotor Position:        Inner
Operation mode:        Capacitor-Run Mode
Run Capacitance (uF):        8
& Its Resistance (ohm):        3.97887
Speed-Adjustment mode:        No Speed-Adjustment

   STATOR DATA

Number of Stator Slots:        24
Outer Diameter of Stator (mm):        110
Inner Diameter of Stator (mm):        60

Type of Stator Slot:        3
Dimension of Stator Slot       
            hs0 (mm):        0.69      
            hs1 (mm):        0.73      
            hs2 (mm):        11      
            bs0 (mm):        2.5      
            bs1 (mm):        5.04      
            bs2 (mm):        7.9      
            rs (mm):        1         

Top Tooth Width (mm):        3.19858
Bottom Tooth Width (mm):        3.23463

        Main      Aux.   
Type of Coils:        31      31      
Coil Position:        Top       Bot
Conductor Length Adjustment (mm):        -5      -30      
Number of Parallel Branches:        1         1         
Number of Wires per Conductor:        1         1         
Number of Conductors per Slot:       
            slot # 1:        85      0   
            slot # 2:        85      0   
            slot # 3:        85      0   
            slot # 4:        85      0   
            slot # 5:        0         185
            slot # 6:        0         185

Main-Phase Wire Diameter (mm):        0.556   
Aux.-Phase Wire Diameter (mm):        0.357   
Main-Phase Wire Wrap (mm):        0.07      
Aux.-Phase Wire Wrap (mm):        0.06      

Slot Insulation Thickness (mm):        0.25
Layer Insulation Thickness (mm):        0
Limited Slot Fill Factor (%):        58
Wire Resistivity (ohm.mm^2/m):        0.0217

   ROTOR DATA

Number of Rotor Slots:        18
Air Gap (mm):        0.35
Inner Diameter of Rotor (mm):        20

Type of Rotor Slot:        1
Dimension of Rotor Slot
            hr0 (mm):        0.7
            hr01 (mm):        0
            hr2 (mm):        5.5
            br0 (mm):        1.1
            br1 (mm):        3.76
            br2 (mm):        1.9
Cast Rotor:        Yes

Number of Vents:        0
Vent Diameter (mm):        0
Vent Location (mm):        0
Skew Width:        1
End Length of Bar (mm):        0
Height of End Ring (mm):        8
Width of End Ring (mm):        5
Bar Resistivity (ohm.mm^2/m):        0.0434783
End_Ring Resistivity (ohm.mm^2/m):        0.0434783
Rotor Core Length (mm):        43
Rotor Stacking Factor        0.95
Rotor Steel Type        D23_50
Magnetic Shaft:        No


   MATERIAL CONSUMPTION

Armature Wire Density (kg/m^3):        8900
Rotor Bar Density (kg/m^3):        2700
Rotor Ring Density (kg/m^3):        2700
Armature Core Steel Density (kg/m^3):        7820
Rotor Core Steel Density (kg/m^3):        7820

Main Winding Copper Weight (kg):        0.422862
Auxiliary Winding Copper Weight (kg):        0.22289
Rotor Bar Material Weight (kg):        0.0485751
Rotor Ring Material Weight (kg):        0.0338613
Armature Core Steel Weight (kg):        1.49535
Rotor Core Steel Weight (kg):        0.648252
Total Net Weight (kg):        2.87179

Armature Core Steel Consumption (kg):        3.1758
Rotor Core Steel Consumption (kg):        0.903215

   RATED OPERATION

Main-Phase Resistance (ohm):        17.49
Aux.-Phase Resistance (ohm):        54.2384
Main Leakage Reactance (ohm):        9.35396
Aux. Leakage Reactance (ohm):        34.7141
Rotor Resistance (ohm):        32.5405
Rotor Leakage Reactance (ohm):        11.2399
Magnetizing Reactance (ohm):        200.945
Turn Ratio of Aux. to Main-Coil:        1.25659

Stator Line Current (A):        1.74388
Main-Phase Current (A):        1.35658
Aux.-Phase Current (A):        0.957636
Phase Shift between Main        
and Aux. Currents (degrees):        86.1448
Capacitor Voltage (V):        381.031

Capacitor Loss (W):        3.6489
Copper Loss of Stator Winding (W):        81.9273
Copper Loss of Rotor Winding (W):        31.5907
Iron-Core Loss (W):        14.9987
Frictional and Windage Loss (W):        52.1793
Total Loss (W):        184.345
Input Power (W):        385.249
Output Power (W):        200.904

Mechanical Shaft Torque (N.m):        0.7186
Efficiency (%):        52.1492
Power Factor:        0.960499
Rated Slip:        0.110078
Rated Shaft Speed (rpm):        2669.77

   NO-LOAD OPERATION

Main Leakage Reactance (ohm):        9.13464
Aux. Leakage Reactance (ohm):        30.4436
Rotor Leakage Reactance (ohm):        10.275
Magnetizing Reactance (ohm):        154.202

No-Load Stator Line Current (A):        1.38973
No-Load Main-Phase Current (A):        1.69111
No-Load Aux.-Phase Current (A):        1.07595
Phase Shift between No-Load Main        
and Aux. Currents (degrees):        127.617

No-Load Iron-Core Loss (W):        16.8721
No-Load Input Power (W):        212.007
No-Load Power Factor:        0.663272
No-Load Slip:        0.0234346
No-Load Shaft Speed (rpm):        2929.7

   BREAK-DOWN OPERATION

Break-Down Slip:        0.37
Break-Down Torque (N.m):        1.29743
Break-Down Torque Ratio:        1.8055

   LOCKED-ROTOR OPERATION

Locked-Rotor Torque (N.m):        0.510807
Locked-Rotor Line Current (A):        4.46708
Locked-Rotor Torque Ratio:        0.710836
Locked-Rotor Current Ratio:        2.56157

Locked-Rotor Main-Phase Current (A):        4.5374
Locked-Rotor Aux.-Phase Current (A):        0.647335
Phase Shift between Locked-Rotor Main        
and Aux. Currents (degrees):        101.056

   DETAILED DATA AT RATED OPERATION

Main Slot Leakage Reactance (ohm):        2.38292
Main End-Winding Leakage        
Reactance (ohm):        6.02821
Main Differential Leakage        
Reactance (ohm):        0.942842

Aux. Slot Leakage Reactance (ohm):        5.64397
Aux. End-Winding Leakage        
Reactance (ohm):        10.7113
Aux. Differential Leakage        
Reactance (ohm):        18.3588

Rotor Slot Leakage Reactance (ohm):        3.95938
Rotor End-Winding Leakage        
Reactance (ohm):        3.06086
Rotor Differential Leakage        
Reactance (ohm):        2.07385
Skewing Leakage Reactance (ohm):        2.14578

Main-Phase Winding Factor:        0.82936
Aux.-Phase Winding Factor:        0.957662

Stator-Teeth Flux Density (Tesla):        1.57154
Rotor-Teeth Flux Density (Tesla):        1.18537
Stator-Yoke Flux Density (Tesla):        1.70168
Rotor-Yoke Flux Density (Tesla):        1.8398
Air-Gap Flux Density (Tesla):        0.601644

Stator-Teeth Ampere Turns (A.T):        35.8093
Rotor-Teeth Ampere Turns (A.T):        4.77166
Stator-Yoke Ampere Turns (A.T):        185.857
Rotor-Yoke Ampere Turns (A.T):        58.3906
Air-Gap Ampere Turns (A.T):        219.642

Correction Factor for Magnetic        
Circuit Length of Stator Yoke:        0.331948
Correction Factor for Magnetic        
Circuit Length of Rotor Yoke:        0.164448
Saturation Factor for Teeth:        1.18476
Saturation Factor for Teeth & Yoke:        2.29679
Induced-Voltage Factor:        0.897703

Mean Half-Turn Length of        
Main-Phase Winding (mm):        143.89
Mean Half-Turn Length of        
Aux.-Phase Winding (mm):        169.049

Main Winding Current Density (A/mm^2):        5.58735
Aux. Winding Current Density (A/mm^2):        9.56697
Specific Electric Loading (A/mm):        17.3068
Mean Stator Thermal Load (A^2/mm^3):        126.622

        Fill-Factor    Thermal-Load
           (%)         (A^2/mm^3)
            Slot # 1        48.726         82.031         
            Slot # 2        48.726         82.031         
            Slot # 3        48.726         82.031         
            Slot # 4        48.726         82.031         
            Slot # 5        47.059         215.803      
            Slot # 6        47.059         215.803      


   TRANSIENT FEA INPUT DATA

For Main Winding:
Number of Turns:        680
Parallel Branches:        1
Terminal Resistance (ohm):        17.49
End Leakage Inductance (H):        0.0191884
For Aux. Winding:
Number of Turns:        740
Parallel Branches:        1
Terminal Resistance (ohm):        54.2384
End Leakage Inductance (H):        0.0340953
Starting Capacitance (uF):        0
Running Capacitance (uF):        8
Switch Speed (rpm):        0
For Rotor End Ring Between Two Bars of One Side:
End Ring Resistance (ohm):        8.62392e-006
End Ring Leakage Inductance (H):        4.02897e-009
Skew Leakage Inductance (H):        2.74464e-009
2D Equivalent Value:
Equivalent Model Depth (mm):        43
Equivalent Stator Stacking Factor:        0.95
Equivalent Rotor Stacking Factor:        0.95
Estimated Rotor Moment of Inertia (kg m^2):        0.000407176

hypo_qu 发表于 2010-6-24 16:24

回复 39# 大长经

从你的结果来看,你的叠高可以再减一点,槽满率才40多,热负荷也不高、
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