12极37千瓦，机座号y315，怎样下线？-西莫电机圈

ryf 发表于 2009-5-25 19:02

12极37千瓦，机座号y315，怎样下线？

用y315的哪一种铁心，下线数据，电流等各项参数。先谢谢各位高手了！

hualikaifa 发表于 2009-5-26 12:34

6极的铁心，转子最好用88槽的，要不电磁声大。6路或更少的路数。你要给出具体冲片数据才好给你计算啊。

ryf 发表于 2009-5-27 12:30

谢谢hualikaifa，我的朋友

fjr510 发表于 2009-5-28 09:16

用315-10的铁心90/12槽，两路

ryf 发表于 2009-5-28 21:04

楼上的朋友能不能说明吧些

hfpian 发表于 2009-6-1 23:41

若想采用标准冲片的话，可用Y或Y2的315-10极片，Q1/Q2=90/72,y=7时Kdp=0.9514,6路并接，(1,2,3,-9,-10)、(16,17,18,-24,-25)、(31,32,33,-39,-40)、(46,47,48,-54,-55)、(61,62,63,-69,-70)、(76,77,78,-84,-85)以上六组是其中一相组成六路的槽号，采用双层叠式。其余两相槽号自己排一下。不知有没有帮助？

ryf 发表于 2009-6-3 22:11

楼上的朋友能不能帮忙算一下具体数据，感激！

piandh 发表于 2009-6-20 14:42

　　　　　　　　　　　　中小型散绕组异步电动机电磁计算单
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                  TYPE:Y2-315 -12 37.0KW 12P 380V

                        ---冲片及定 ,转子槽型尺寸数据---
D1=52.00 DI1 =39.00 DI2 =11.00 DK2 =3.600 L =23.00 RS= .480
Q1= 90 BO1 = .400 HO1 = .100 ARF1= 30.0 H12 =3.760 B1= .700
Q2= 72 G =.0800 QL1 =2.500 DR1 =37.80 DR2 =26.00 NK=    0
BO2 = .150 BR1 = .400 BR2 = .400 BR3 = .680 BR4 = .380 HO2 = .100
ARF2= 30.0 HR12=5.404 HR2 =1.760 HR3 =3.500
NK2 =    0

                        ----------绕组尺寸数据----------
AA1 =    3 AA2 =    0 C1=1.060 C2= .000 SN1 = 56 Y1=7.000
LZ=40.76 ZFI1=280.0 SR=11.56 DR=31.90 TY=10.64 FD= 3.52
DD1 = 2.50 S1= 2.65 LS=17.76 KS= 1.25 A1=    6 tmi = .035

                        ----------磁路计算数据----------
BT11= .673 ST1 = 108.00 BT1 =15663.8 HT1 =3.920 AT11= 9.31 ATT1=63.66
BT31=1.171 ST21= 150.29 BT21=11256.3 HT21=1.904 AT2M= 4.95 ATTM= 9.56
BT32= .836 ST22= 107.32 BT22=15763.5 HT22=3.500 AT2N=31.50 ATTN=92.49
HC1 =2.320 SC1 =49.62 BC1 =11701.8 LC1 =6.503 ATCM= 6.02 ATC1=27.40
HC2 =6.016 SC2 = 128.68 BC2 = 4512.9 LC2 =2.227 ATCN= 1.47 ATC2= 2.30
TP= 10.210 SG= 236.47 BG= 7153.9 GE= .100 ATG = 574.96 ATT2= 102.06
FI=1161401.0 IKW =32.46 LEFF=23.16 LFE1=21.39 LFE2=21.39 KC1 = 1.2199
KC2 = 1.0294 KD1 =.9567 KP1 =.9945 KDP1=.9514 KE=.9033 FT= 1.2882
FSS = 1.4566 QP1 = 7.50 QP2 = 6.00 AT= 770.38 C11 = .700 C22 = .700
A/2 = .00 FA= .00 B1E = .00 LL1 = .00 BE= .00 R1= .00
I = .00 M = .00 Kfe = .93 Sf= .786

                        ----------参数计算数据----------
XS11= .97339 XD11= .42122 XE11= .22077 X11 = .07455 R1= .15590 R11 = .01332
XS21=2.60283 XD21= .55551 XSK1= .17923 X21 = .15805 RB1 = .11813 RR1 = .01127
RB= .01009 RR= .00096 R21 = .01105 X = .23260 BK1 = .00000 LLU1= .40746
LLL1=1.90244 LLU2= .66667 LLL2=4.57521 SMGS= .01590 SMGR= .02316 XE21= .08689
CX= .04615 XM1 =1.26391 K =21.29 KU1 = .95000 KL1 = .96250 KE0 = .94101
LM=.0000 XM=.0000 X0=.0000

                        ----------电流计算数据----------
IP1 = 1.0874 IM1 =.7912 IX1 =.3122 IR1 = 1.1034 IM0 =33.55 I11 = 1.5492
I1=50.28 DART= 3.17 AJ1 =1091.15 I21 = 1.13 I2= 407.59 IR= 778.44
DARB= 1.57 DARR= .67 LLS1= 2.2182 LLS2= 5.2419 AKW = 344.72

                        ----------损耗计算数据----------
BT10=16318.5 BT20=11726.8 BC10=12190.9 BC20= 4701.5 BG0 = 7452.9 VT1 = 5080.2
VC1 = 7745.1 PT11=46.69 PC10=25.36 PT1 = 237.21 PC1 = 196.41 PFE =1084.05
PFE1= .02930 PCU1= 1182.4 PCU11 .03196 PAL21 .01415 PAL2=523.4 PS1 = .00500
PS=185.0 PFW =225.7 PFW1= .00610 P11 =1.08650 Kt= 2.50 Ky= 2.50

                        -------起动及性能计算数据-------
ZST =.1727 RST =.0617 XST =.1613 CS1 =.1154 CS2 =.1854 BTAC=1.044
BL=.1881 KZ= .88000 DALU1.0606 DALU2.3685 LS1ST 2.1606 LS2ST 2.4608
DU2ST.2982                                                 DL2ST 2.1626
SN=.0136 N = 493 TM= 2.0025 TST = 1.6012 IST1= 3.74 AT0 =2514.71
IN=50.28 IETA=.9204 COSQ=.7013 KCE = 3.6449 RR0 = 4.7035 XX0 = .000

piandh 发表于 2009-6-20 14:45

用Y2-315-10极冲片，用于12极运行时可能出现电磁噪声，若无批量，可以将就着用。若有批量，就重新开转子槽，88槽的，效果好些。

ryf 发表于 2009-6-20 15:41

谢谢楼上的朋友，忘说了，电压是1140v，我的邮箱ryfxls@sina.com，很感谢！

piandh 发表于 2009-6-22 00:27

　　　　　　　　　　　　中小型散绕组异步电动机电磁计算单
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                  TYPE:Y2-315 -12 37.0KW 12P 660V

                        ---冲片及定 ,转子槽型尺寸数据---
D1=52.00 DI1 =39.00 DI2 =11.00 DK2 =3.600 L =23.00 RS= .480
Q1= 90 BO1 = .400 HO1 = .100 ARF1= 30.0 H12 =3.760 B1= .700
Q2= 72 G =.0800 QL1 =2.500 DR1 =37.80 DR2 =26.00 NK=    0
BO2 = .150 BR1 = .400 BR2 = .400 BR3 = .680 BR4 = .380 HO2 = .100
ARF2= 30.0 HR12=5.404 HR2 =1.760 HR3 =3.500
NK2 =    0

                        ----------绕组尺寸数据----------
AA1 =    3 AA2 =    0 C1=1.120 C2= .000 SN1 = 48 Y1=7.000
LZ=40.76 ZFI1=480.0 SR=11.56 DR=31.90 TY=10.64 FD= 3.52
DD1 = 2.50 S1= 2.96 LS=17.76 KS= 1.25 A1=    3 tmi = .050

                        ----------磁路计算数据----------
BT11= .673 ST1 = 108.00 BT1 =15798.0 HT1 =3.920 AT11= 9.65 ATT1=68.34
BT31=1.171 ST21= 150.29 BT21=11352.7 HT21=1.904 AT2M= 5.09 ATTM= 9.82
BT32= .836 ST22= 107.32 BT22=15898.5 HT22=3.500 AT2N=34.71 ATTN= 102.03
HC1 =2.320 SC1 =49.62 BC1 =11864.0 LC1 =6.503 ATCM= 6.29 ATC1=28.64
HC2 =6.016 SC2 = 128.68 BC2 = 4575.5 LC2 =2.227 ATCN= 1.49 ATC2= 2.32
TP= 10.210 SG= 236.47 BG= 7215.2 GE= .100 ATG = 579.89 ATT2= 111.86
FI=1177494.0 IKW =18.69 LEFF=23.16 LFE1=21.39 LFE2=21.39 KC1 = 1.2199
KC2 = 1.0294 KD1 =.9567 KP1 =.9945 KDP1=.9514 KE=.9038 FT= 1.3107
FSS = 1.4490 QP1 = 7.50 QP2 = 6.00 AT= 791.04 C11 = .700 C22 = .700
A/2 = .00 FA= .00 B1E = .00 LL1 = .00 BE= .00 R1= .00
I = .00 M = .00 Kfe = .93 Sf= .793

                        ----------参数计算数据----------
XS11= .97339 XD11= .41399 XE11= .22077 X11 = .07230 R1= .47877 R11 = .01356
XS21=2.60283 XD21= .54597 XSK1= .17615 X21 = .15340 RB1 = .34716 RR1 = .03312
RB= .00983 RR= .00094 R21 = .01077 X = .22571 BK1 = .00000 LLU1= .40746
LLL1=1.90244 LLU2= .66667 LLL2=4.57521 SMGS= .01590 SMGR= .02316 XE21= .08689
CX= .04496 XM1 =1.21491 K =62.57 KU1 = .95000 KL1 = .96250 KE0 = .94049
LM=.0000 XM=.0000 X0=.0000

                        ----------电流计算数据----------
IP1 = 1.0887 IM1 =.8231 IX1 =.3027 IR1 = 1.1258 IM0 =20.25 I11 = 1.5661
I1=29.27 DART= 3.30 AJ1 =1135.26 I21 = 1.13 I2= 401.82 IR= 767.42
DARB= 1.55 DARR= .66 LLS1= 2.2182 LLS2= 5.2419 AKW = 343.96

                        ----------损耗计算数据----------
BT10=16438.5 BT20=11813.0 BC10=12345.0 BC20= 4760.9 BG0 = 7507.7 VT1 = 5080.2
VC1 = 7745.1 PT11=47.31 PC10=26.12 PT1 = 240.35 PC1 = 202.34 PFE =1106.74
PFE1= .02991 PCU1= 1230.2 PCU11 .03325 PAL21 .01375 PAL2=508.7 PS1 = .00500
PS=185.0 PFW =225.7 PFW1= .00610 P11 =1.08801 Kt= 2.50 Ky= 2.50

                        -------起动及性能计算数据-------
ZST =.1667 RST =.0607 XST =.1553 CS1 =.1271 CS2 =.2042 BTAC=1.044
BL=.1939 KZ= .86784 DALU1.0656 DALU2.3843 LS1ST 2.1558 LS2ST 2.4450
DU2ST.2824                                                 DL2ST 2.1626
SN=.0132 N = 493 TM= 2.0587 TST = 1.6743 IST1= 3.83 AT0 =2592.16
IN=29.27 IETA=.9191 COSQ=.6947 KCE = 3.6449 RR0 = 4.7035 XX0 = .000

                        -------温升及风量计算数据-------
Q1= .00 QI1 = .00 QL1 = .00 QFE1= .00
Q = .000 QQ= .000 H = .000 PB= .000

                        --------试验规范计算数据--------
R1= .48 I0=16.65 P0=1332.44 ISTA= 112.08 PSTA= 81927. TSTA= 122.52
TLOD= 73. RSTA=2.145 XSTA=5.484 RLOD= .859 XLOD=7.972

                        ------ 有效材料用量 -----------
Gfe =451.1 Gcu =48.66 Gal1=11.62 Gal2= 6.26 Gal3= .00 Gal4= .00
Gin = .00 SSg = 518. Cost= 5527.
　　3-Y接法。定转子齿部磁密略高些。
　　仅供参考。

lwj0631 发表于 2009-6-22 19:50

12极37kw，如果批量生产，不如在280机座号，重新开槽，加大定子内径效果很好

XKS1999 发表于 2009-6-23 09:29

PIANDH，你好，你用的是哈理工的程序，能发一个参数说明给我吗？谢谢xks1999@yahoo.com.cn

piandh 发表于 2009-6-25 16:01

干什么用啊？

wlzwlj 发表于 2009-6-30 14:22

1140电机最好不要用低压电机的绝缘结构,否则容易出问题

simon.liu 发表于 2009-6-30 14:31

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porsche 发表于 2009-7-10 11:53

学习一下~这个电压没做过..

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12极37千瓦，机座号y315，怎样下线？